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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12941</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any event... what ever happened to resolution independence? That&#039;s what everybody should be shooting for... jmo... I mean SVG and VML is very real and give CSS another few years and presto... websites will jump from Windows 3.1 desktop bitmap graphics to scalable vector graphics Windows 7. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any event&#8230; what ever happened to resolution independence? That&#8217;s what everybody should be shooting for&#8230; jmo&#8230; I mean SVG and VML is very real and give CSS another few years and presto&#8230; websites will jump from Windows 3.1 desktop bitmap graphics to scalable vector graphics Windows 7. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12940</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Drupal is still not &quot;on-the-fly&quot;... It looks like they compress at the point at which the resolution is applied in the settings rather than at the point at which the page is generated.

Hence... each photo is still unique... Creates a large and unmanageable potential mess long term... jmo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Drupal is still not &#8220;on-the-fly&#8221;&#8230; It looks like they compress at the point at which the resolution is applied in the settings rather than at the point at which the page is generated.</p>
<p>Hence&#8230; each photo is still unique&#8230; Creates a large and unmanageable potential mess long term&#8230; jmo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12939</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I understand what your saying. While OOP might give you better &quot;compartmentalization&quot;, it&#039;s still not going to change the architecture they are currently working with.

I heard Wordpress the newer version offers image editing capabilities, however it seems to repeat desktop editing functionality in the browser as opposed to &quot;on-the-fly&quot; image management.

It seems you just have the ability to create new images for use elsewhere...

OOP is really not beneficial in the sense that anyone can still write a mess in OOP code.

Just wanted to come back and mention that regeneration is something I used to do with my CMS but it creates an issue with reusing the same image in multiple areas at different resolutions. An upper limit, sure, but a fixed size applied and recompressed against all images? It sounds like it could be CSS in which case it works, but not very well...

I don&#039;t want to give it away, but drupal is most certainly the closest one to having it set up right...

You can tell by the folder naming structure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I understand what your saying. While OOP might give you better &#8220;compartmentalization&#8221;, it&#8217;s still not going to change the architecture they are currently working with.</p>
<p>I heard WordPress the newer version offers image editing capabilities, however it seems to repeat desktop editing functionality in the browser as opposed to &#8220;on-the-fly&#8221; image management.</p>
<p>It seems you just have the ability to create new images for use elsewhere&#8230;</p>
<p>OOP is really not beneficial in the sense that anyone can still write a mess in OOP code.</p>
<p>Just wanted to come back and mention that regeneration is something I used to do with my CMS but it creates an issue with reusing the same image in multiple areas at different resolutions. An upper limit, sure, but a fixed size applied and recompressed against all images? It sounds like it could be CSS in which case it works, but not very well&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to give it away, but drupal is most certainly the closest one to having it set up right&#8230;</p>
<p>You can tell by the folder naming structure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vince jelenic</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12927</link>
		<dc:creator>vince jelenic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WP is very compartmentalized. 
Trying to make a change to ALL elements is frustrating, to say the least. 
Not a true OOP implementation. 

But... I do believe there is a plugin for image thumbnail resizing up on wp somewhere. 
In one swoop, it will regenerate all image to  your preferred size, as set in WP media prefs. 

(none of the above obviates the need  for better image handling, just helps alleviate a bit). 

Personally, looking forwards to moving to Drupal in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WP is very compartmentalized.<br />
Trying to make a change to ALL elements is frustrating, to say the least.<br />
Not a true OOP implementation. </p>
<p>But&#8230; I do believe there is a plugin for image thumbnail resizing up on wp somewhere.<br />
In one swoop, it will regenerate all image to  your preferred size, as set in WP media prefs. </p>
<p>(none of the above obviates the need  for better image handling, just helps alleviate a bit). </p>
<p>Personally, looking forwards to moving to Drupal in future.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Friedman</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12901</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2.8 in the editor you can click on an image included in a post and manipulate resize controls.   Has this changed in 2.9? What exactly are you referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2.8 in the editor you can click on an image included in a post and manipulate resize controls.   Has this changed in 2.9? What exactly are you referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12884</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you mean. Image resizing should be transparent to the end user.

It took me a while to do it for my websites. You have to mess around with the actual server itself to handle redirects and such. I&#039;m not so sure wordpress would work in every circmstance depending on how your server was configured. Example, CGI versus Apache Mod, Linux versus Windows.

That&#039;s probably why they don&#039;t do it.

As for the load on the server. You only need to compress it &quot;on-the-fly&quot; once and cache the results.

Typically, wordpress is a big mashy mess, far from anything innovative at all... it&#039;s really just popular. It will an eternity before they really hammer everything out, jmo... I mean they laid such a strange groundwork now they are stuck with it as many people have extended it.

Hope that helps paint a picture...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you mean. Image resizing should be transparent to the end user.</p>
<p>It took me a while to do it for my websites. You have to mess around with the actual server itself to handle redirects and such. I&#8217;m not so sure wordpress would work in every circmstance depending on how your server was configured. Example, CGI versus Apache Mod, Linux versus Windows.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably why they don&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>As for the load on the server. You only need to compress it &#8220;on-the-fly&#8221; once and cache the results.</p>
<p>Typically, wordpress is a big mashy mess, far from anything innovative at all&#8230; it&#8217;s really just popular. It will an eternity before they really hammer everything out, jmo&#8230; I mean they laid such a strange groundwork now they are stuck with it as many people have extended it.</p>
<p>Hope that helps paint a picture&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Carmichael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Carmichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt,

Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate the distinction between .org and .com and Automattic different role with each, but I hope you&#039;ll appreciate that for a many WP users, WordPress is WordPress and WordPress is Automattic.

Anyway, my frustration had more to do with the fact that WP has painted me into a corner with hard-coded image-sizes with no way to easily adjust now for a new theme with a wider content area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate the distinction between .org and .com and Automattic different role with each, but I hope you&#8217;ll appreciate that for a many WP users, WordPress is WordPress and WordPress is Automattic.</p>
<p>Anyway, my frustration had more to do with the fact that WP has painted me into a corner with hard-coded image-sizes with no way to easily adjust now for a new theme with a wider content area.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://colincarmichael.ca/wordpress-image-handling-sucks-wp-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-12866</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do this on my blog, and there are good plugins for it. It can create a pretty large burden on the server, though, which is why we decided to delay implementation until the next version.

Also, common mistake, but Automattic does not make WordPress.org, it&#039;s made by many people (over 140 thanked in the announcement post) the vast majority of whom have nothing to do with Automattic, and some find it insulting when you refer to them as one and the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do this on my blog, and there are good plugins for it. It can create a pretty large burden on the server, though, which is why we decided to delay implementation until the next version.</p>
<p>Also, common mistake, but Automattic does not make WordPress.org, it&#8217;s made by many people (over 140 thanked in the announcement post) the vast majority of whom have nothing to do with Automattic, and some find it insulting when you refer to them as one and the same.</p>
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